As this New York Times semi-Q&A suggests, a strange pairing over an unexpected topic:
PG: Speaking of breaking things down, I noticed, reading “Thrive,” that the pillars of wellness must be second nature to athletes, who are all about peak performance. You meditate?
AH: Every day.
KB: [N.B.A. coach] Phil Jackson introduced me to it. When I was 18, Michael Jackson tried to get me to meditate. He could sit in meditation for seven hours. But I couldn’t sit still for 20 minutes.
PG: Michael Jackson?
KB: Yeah. “Thriller” Michael Jackson.
PG: When did Phil Jackson come along?
KB: His first season with the Lakers was when I was 21. And I dived right into meditation. I always knew the game carried a deeper meaning, more than X’s and O’s and strategy.
AH: Phil Jackson was a pioneer bringing this into sports. He helped give meditation, and other ways to renew ourselves, a legitimacy for businesspeople and macho guys, who tended to identify it with New Age-y, flaky stuff. Suddenly, meditation became performance enhancement, as well as part of the journey of discovery.
KB: It’s crazy to me that meditation is viewed as hokey. Just look at the people who’ve done phenomenal things. Do they meditate? Absolutely.
PG: What happens to the “obnoxious roommate” when you don’t meditate?
AH: I’m still a work in progress. But the “obnoxious roommate” now only makes guest appearances, and that’s a pretty big achievement for me. I try not to judge myself if I miss a meditation. Judgment creates the vicious cycle.
KB: When my “obnoxious roommate” knocks on the door in my head, I’ve found it’s better just to let him in. If you try to tune him out, he just bangs louder. If you let him in, he sits down, watches TV and shuts up. Know what I mean?
There are plenty of other topics touched on, too. And a reminder that the NBA season is just around the corner.
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